"There were people who tried using machines even if everyone else didn't like it," he says with a kind of a shrug; a bigger deal than that, but no need to get too heavy, even if- "It wasn't great. People really disliked them for it, but if it weren't for them? I'd say a lot of useful tech would still be lost to everyone."

Or, it'd take longer to recover. But the thought makes him pause, tilt his head with a small shake at Dennis. "You got nowhere on Earth like that? Some place that doesn't anything involving wires or...batteries?"

Would there ever be a place like that?