Okay, Xander had to respect the way Siebren controlled the conversation like that. Not that it didn't sound like Seto wanted to bang his own drum for a bit, but really, what else was there to do?

Except to talk about things he didn't want to dig too deep into, admittedly. He gave the older man a grateful look, but couldn't suppress a chuckle as he did so.

"There's time for that, but if this gives you any idea--one of Drake's favorite expressions is 'explosions mean progress'. He puts the 'mad' in mad scientist, just a bit."

Though the nephilim was absolutely certain Drake and Siebren would probably get on like a house on fire.

"So, perfect virtual reality? That was the next topic, right?"