"Cards? They're actual analogue paper cards, aren't they?" At least he doesn't seem intrinsically horrified by the concept? "That's so old-fashioned, I don't think I've played with cards since I was in creche! Someone'll probably have to teach me the rules, though, it's been a while."

But there's something else he's more interested in right now. "I keep hearing people talk about points," he says. "Fill me in?"