Devero lets out another breath and nods. "You're right," he says. "We do. We've done it. And-- you said you had an apocalypse happen too...?"

Devero touches his Interface lightly. "Oh-- well. When you go from billions of people crowding an over-stressed planet to only millions, there end up being a lot of resources to go around." He still sounds-- not somber as he says it, but at least serious. All those resources had come at tremendous cost, after all.