"I'd say experimenting on anyone who can't consent to it is fucked up," Asch says. He means it - vehemently - and shows that everywhere in his posture.

(He's good enough to not have so obvious a tell as touching his core crystal, but it sits heavily in his chest right now.)

"Unfortunately the methodology doesn't mean they didn't produce results," he says. "Hold it against them for eternity, but if the information already exists, use the hell out of it. Sometimes that's the only way to keep it from happening again."