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Takato Matsuda ([personal profile] dreamtamer) wrote in [community profile] voidtreckerexpress2021-05-25 04:57 pm

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 [Even a few days after returning from the mission, Takato was far more subdued than normal. He was still smiling, but it didn't have his usual energy.]

I think a lot of other people must have been asking about this too. But I've been thinking a lot about what happened. I don't understand why every time we run into illusions, they feel so real to me.

But I'm not sure what I can do about it.
so_dark_a_road: (these are my brass knuckles)

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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-05-25 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a mystery, all right. Is there anything in your history that might give you even a clue as to why that is?

And as for what you can do? Use every ounce of your determination to either fend off the illusion or question its reality. I don't know if that will work, but it might.
so_dark_a_road: (a cunning and skillful horseman)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-05-29 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
[ Curufin is in the Dining Carriage with his cleaning equipment. He wields a mop and a bucket with great energy, and somehow manages to pay attention to Takato at the same time. ]

What happened that was strange? Was that only after you met Guilmon?

As for reality versus illusion, it's not that easy to tell. But some things will give you clues. Are you in a situation in which it's extremely unlikely that the illusion can be real? For example, on the mission I was up on Tier One, where it was all labs and other modern scenery, I knew it couldn't be real when I opened a door and suddenly there was a room in my castle back in Middle-earth.

There are other clues. Does the image flicker like our illusions did on the mission? Reality usually doesn't behave that way. Also, there is your deep-down feeling about the illusion. You indicated when we were talking before that your illusions seemed so real that you really couldn't doubt it. But go one level down in your heart and ask yourself if your heart really thinks the image is real. The heart knows.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-05-30 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
"So Guilmon had something to do with your life becoming. . . not ordinary. . . and visions coming into your life?"

He considers. "I don't know much about the Digital World, since that's really not my thing. But I guess it could create places that seemed "real"? Still, a library under the ocean sounds kind of illogical, even if it looks real. I resort to using logic when trying to decide if something is real or not."

Hmmm.

"But if you didn't see any flickering, then maybe the power that makes your visions seem real is making sure you don't see anything that might make you doubt the vision. But what about the judgement of the heart? Surely your heart really knows if something is real or not?
so_dark_a_road: (green army jacket)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-07 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Curufin listens. "What's a D-Arc? And who are the digignomes?"

And back to how to tell what is real: "Well, it's true that some real places are illogical. But when a place violates the laws of logic in a really blantent fashion, then I'd question whether it was real. For example, on the mission, I found myself on a ship out on the ocean. I'm sure it was suoposed to be the ship I sailed across the sea to get to Middle-earth, but the illusion-maker made a mistake, creating a ship that looked like one from the middle ages of Earth. It had enourmous sails and the deck was high off the water and the rudder was controlled by a wheel. The Telerin Elven ship I actually took was like a Viking ship, very low to the water and the sails were not huge and the rudder was controlled by a handle at the rear of the ship -- no metal mechanism on a belowdeck level to carry the steersman's command to the rudder. This was a complete violation of logic, not to mention history, so I knew I was inside an illusion."

He nods, though he wonders if his situation with respect to reality is radically different than Takato's. "Then maybe neither of those methods will work for you. But what did your heart tell you before? What was it that other people didn't think wwere real, but it was in fact real? -- at least, according to your heart."
so_dark_a_road: (flickers of light)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-10 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh, I see. So you and Guilmon have a means to communicate in case you are separated? And the digignomes are natural to your world."

He smiles. "They must be very nice, if they communicate with you by granting wishes. Did you have any wishes that they granted?"

He tilts his head in puzzlement and curiosity. "I don't know much about computer programs, but Guilmon doesn't seem to me to be one. He seems to be an independent intelligence, even if he's bound to you in some way."
so_dark_a_road: (flickers of light)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-11 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh, I see! I do understand that idea of dreaming in your minds together. Elves can do that, and I have. But I like that part of it, that you two can share your strength wih each other."

He nods. "Guilmon as a dream that became real. That's even better. If he dreamed himself into existence, or if he dreamed you first? -- what a mysterious reality! But that is wonderful, that either way, you are friends and will come to each other's aid when needed."
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-13 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"It does. When I and my brothers were growing up, it was not unusual for us to share dreams. We shared our thoughts, too, without speaking aloud."

He smiles. "This Mr. Mizuno must have been a good mentor to you, if he understood anything so mysterious as people or beings dreaming each other into existance. If you could ask him something now, what would you ask?"
so_dark_a_road: (by the laws of our people)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-19 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
"I'd be willing to bet that you could. You can probably figure it out yourself, how to share dreams and thoughts with Guilmon. But if the two of you want some lessons, I'd be willing to teach."

He smiles. "Good thing, though, to have someone who knows so much, even if you only talked to Mr. Mizuno once."

He knows nothing about the cards. "What do the red and blue cards look like? And do you have experience with them?"
so_dark_a_road: (Feast of Reuniting -- NOT invited)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-23 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
"When do you want to try this? I'm free right now, or we could arrange it for later. I think the place to start is with sharing dreams, because that part of our brains is intimately tied to both our thoughts and emotions, and those are necessary in order to share thoughts while awake. You don't absolutely have to be asleep to share dreams, just in a relaxed and imaginative state."

Curufin looks carefully at the red card. "Wow! It turned into a blue card. It sounds like these cards are related to your connection with Guilmon. If using the card can help you send him strength and help you feel what he feels, then maybe there is some way to use them to help you two share dreams and thoughts."
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-23 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"Tonight would work for me. What if you and Guilmon and I meet in the Garden Carriage? Bring a blanket to fold and place on a bench, just for the sake of comfort. I'll bring an extra, in case Guilmon needs one too."

It was true that it wasn't necessary to be asleep in order to share dreams. It was only necessary to be relaxed and in a deeply receptive state, in which the imagination was fully activated. Curufin could help them relax into such a state.
so_dark_a_road: (flickers of light)

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-28 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
"You're very welcome, Takato! I'll see you there tonight, say, after dinner."
so_dark_a_road: (gaze no more in the bitter glass #1)

You decide! I'm good either way.

[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2021-06-30 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
"I'll be looking forward to it."
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[personal profile] darknessinzero 2021-05-26 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't say that I have much experience with them, short of recently, but...

I think it may help to have someone you trust, nearby. And to remember you trust them.
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-29 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm not really sure. With me, I think there may have been a wifi signal that got into my central processing unit because... What I saw wasn't something anyone knew about. But I didn't think that could happen to humans."

"I have a prototype helmet but.... It is.... Very rudimentary."
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-31 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
She tilts her head in confusion at that, "Eeeeeeh!?"

"Do you mean you downloaded your mind into a digital system, or some form of singularity technology actually turned you into a program?!"
washibot: (glasses push)

[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-31 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"Are you STILL data? Because there may be some danger to being data over physical in a physical realm."

She clasps her hands together, "If you want, I may be able to do some analysis. Data sanitation wasn't my strong suit, but I did enough to keep uncle running back home!"
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-31 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Jark Matter did a lot of things with corrupting AI data and turning them into monsters. Though, Don Armage is gone and they dissolved. BUT! I have seen it happen. Just... Not a lot."

"Come to think of it he did that to living creatures too so basing it off of that may be a bad idea. Do you still interact with the real world as normal? Like eating and... Other things biologicals do?"

Don't say go to the bathroom, don't say go to the bathroom, that's rude Raptor. You aren't that kind of an android.
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-31 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"Viruses usually. But calm down! I mean, it would take a specialist with hundreds of years of training to do something like that."

Usually Raptor, still, there are all kinds of crazy magical things in the universe that also upset the natural order of things.

"I mean, it isn't something I'd really worry about. What are the odds of us fighting someone who is capable of taking a whole galaxy over's right hand men?"
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-05-31 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"I've never heard of a virus infecting a virus. I mean I guess it is theoretically possible, but I'm not a software specialist so I can't say."

She shrugs, "I'm really sorry about that, it was a bit outside of my duties."
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-06-01 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Maybe a doctor that knows computers? Or a high end software type that has experience with biology? I don't have the right kyutama here to check myself."
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[personal profile] washibot 2021-06-08 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm sure there is. From what I've been told the train picks people it needs, so why would it pick someone if it can't medically look after them?"